Conversations with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes , a four-part docuseries, is now streaming on Netflix

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Two new projects about Ted Bundy have renewed horrified interest in the serial killer who was executed in 1989 at 42 after sexually assaulting and murdering at least 30 women in seven states between 1974 and 1978.

A forthcoming Bundy biopic starring Zac Efron premiered at Sundance this week, and a trailer for the movie — titled Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile — was posted online.

Last week, Netflix premiered its four-part docuseries, Conversations with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes, which features audio recordings from dozens of hours of death row interviews Bundy conducted with reporters Stephen Michaud and Hugh Aynesworth, which formed the basis of their 1989 book Ted Bundy: Conversations With a Killer.

During the interviews, Bundy — who had long denied committing his crimes — initially tried telling his life story to the journalists. But eventually, they indirectly got him to open up by positing that his crimes were committed by a hypothetical third person. Bundy, who had a psychology degree, analyzed what kind of a person would be capable of kidnapping, rape and murder — and how that person would commit such crimes.

In the days before his execution in Florida, Bundy began to admit his crimes to authorities, and audio from those confessions are also featured in the docuseries.

Here are four shocking moments from Bundy’s confession tapes from the Netflix documentary.

1. ‘I’ve Always Preferred Women to Men’

Speaking in speculative terms about a hypothetical serial killer, Bundy told Michaud, “Why and how an individual would select women as victims of brutal crime is not entirely clear to me.”

“I’ve always preferred women to men,” Bundy continued. “Um, I probably have 60 percent women friends and close to 40 percent men friends. Its always been divided that way. I enjoy women.”

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2. ‘Murderers Do Not Come Out in the Dark with Long Teeth and Saliva Dripping Off Their Chin’

In trying to explain his motives, Bundy never attributed his brutality to any personal defects. Instead, he pointed the finger at society, and said as police were busying themselves with him, future serial killers were taking shape on the streets.

Like him, many of these killers, he postulated, would exist out in the open, without any sort of suspicion.

Close Up Portrait of Ted Bundy Waving
Ted Bundy
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“People don’t realize that murderers do not come out in the dark with long teeth and saliva dripping off their chin,” he mused.

According to Bundy, an obsession with pornography led him down his dark path.

“I’ve met a lot of men who were motivated to commit violence just like me. And without exception, without question, every one of them was deeply involved in pornography.”

3. ‘I Am in the Enviable Position of Not Having to Feel Any Guilt’

Even as he was being strapped into an electric chair, Bundy never once expressed any remorse for his heinous actions.

Speaking to detectives days before his death, Bundy revealed he has never apologized because he doesn’t feel the need to. “I don’t feel guilty for any of it,” he said, sharing “I feel less guilty now than I’ve felt at any time in my whole life. About anything. I mean really.”

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Bundy almost seemed to brag about his indifference. “It’s not that I’ve forgotten anything or I’ve closed down part of my mind or compartmentalized,” he added. “I believe I understand everything that I’ve done. I am in the enviable position of not having to feel any guilt. And that’s it.

“Guilt is this mechanism we use to control people. It’s an illusion. It’s this kind of social control mechanism and it’s very unhealthy.”

4. ‘Women Are Possessions…Women Are Merchandise’

After making his admissions during his final days of life, Bundy nonchalantly dismissed the devastation that his murders wrought; most of his victims were young college students. He also slowly started expressing his severe resentment for women.

He told authorities: “Women are possessions…women are merchandise.”

In addition, he offered up a rationale for why serial killers can’t stop.

“Perhaps this person hoped that through violence, through this violent series of acts, if with every murder leaving a person of this type hungry… Unfulfilled. Would also leave him with the obviously irrational belief that if the next time he did it he would be fulfilled,” Bundy said. “And the next time he did it he would be fulfilled. Or the next time he did it he would be fulfilled.”