Penn sat down for an in-depth interview with Charlie Rose on Sunday

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One week after Sean Penn‘s bombshell interview with Joaqu n “El Chapo” Guzm n was published on Rolling Stone‘s website, the Oscar-winning actor sat down with Charlie Rose for an in-depth interview about his big scoop for Sunday’s 60 Minutes.

On Friday, Penn, 55, had said that he felt that his interview was a “failure” because it didn’t bring attention to what he said was the real issue at hand, the War on Drugs. On Sunday’s episode, the actor expanded on that reasoning and said that he felt that Americans demonize Guzm n too much.

” I think that there’s – to over-demonize any human being is not in our best self interest,” he said. “Like it or not, we’re married to ’em. They’re of our time. They’re affecting us. So like a marriage, you know, you might want a divorce.

“If all we aim to understand is that this is a very bad person, then let’s not understand anything else,” he continued.

Penn also admitted that he doesn’t fully understand why Guzm n agreed to do the interview with him.

“I can’t read his mind,” he said. “I would say that, you know, from the conversation that was had, he, in several ways, wanted to be on the record.

According to transcripts of texts released by the Mexican government to 60 Minutes, Guzm n did not even know who Penn was.

The actor also said he was “stunned” that Guzm n would take the risk to allow Penn to visit him in his hideout. Authorities later said that the drug lord’s meeting with Penn allowed them to be able to track him down, although the actor was not working with them.