Amy Schumer talks the plus size controversy, Kurt Metzger, gun control and more with Lena Dunham

By Julie Mazziotta
Updated September 02, 2016 11:30 AM
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For Amy Schumer, social media gives her a platform to speak her mind, but it’s often more of a burden.

The comedian has talked about everything from body image to Kurt Metzger, a writer on her show Inside Amy Schumer who posted a controversial Facebook rant about rape, on social media, even when she didn’t want speak up. Schumer addressed it all – and more – in an interview with Lena Dunham for Lenny Letter.

Dunham started the interview by talking about body image, asking Schumer about when she called out Glamour magazine for putting her in a special “plus-size” issue.

“What I was so glad about was that you were just being like, ‘Why, when you see a woman and she has 18,000 contributions to the world, would your desire be to place her in a random category you came up with?’ ” Dunham says.

“Right. I said, ‘I think it’s unfortunate that we still live in a time and a country where normal isn’t good enough. The media body-shames women of healthy, normal sizes,’ ” Schumer says. “That’s why I spoke up about the plus-size thing. Because plus size, unfortunately, still does have a negative connotation.”

But Schumer had no interest in writing about Metzger, while her Twitter followers hounded her for a comment.

“First I was like, f— Kurt. It’s been years that he’s been doing this,” Schumer says. “He’s one of those guys, like a lot of the guys that I’m friends with, who are degenerates. Kurt was saying this awful stuff, and in previous years, I would be like, ‘You’ve got to shut up.’ He’d be like, ‘All right.’ Then it would kind of go away. This time, it was just so bad. But also, why are these women treating him like he raped someone? He’s not Bill Cosby; Kurt has never raped.

“What he was saying was horrific, and he was being a troll. He can be an Internet troll. The fact that I had to answer for it … I was like, ‘Ugh, why this week?’ [Jokingly:] I was like, if there’s scandals, can’t they be about me?

“I do understand that [Metzger’s actions] would come back to me. I can see myself thinking that if I heard somebody on someone’s staff was doing that. I’d be like, ‘I wonder how they are going to handle that.’ I get it. I get it, and I wasn’t even resentful of the connection. I was resentful of the lack of trust. Like, ‘Have I earned any good will with you guys? Do you believe that I feel that rape victims should be shamed on the internet? Have I built up any sort of good will?’ ”

One topic that Schumer felt extremely compelled to address is gun control, which has become a core cause for her after two women were shot and killed at a screening of her movie Trainwreck in 2015.

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“I just wanted to do anything and everything I could,” Schumer says. “And then I got really angry, and I was like, this is not OK. I want to really do something.”

“You know, that is actually when I felt the closest to Jennifer Lawrence, because that day she texted me, “It’s your fault.” And in times like that only jokes make you feel a little better.”

With the help of her cousin, New York senator Chuck Schumer, she started working with the families of gun victims.

“I got to go to the White House with my brother and my sister when Obama signed his executive order on gun control, and all these people were there, all these victims of shootings. All these people who joined this movement to try and help stop gun violence, and they come over and they are like, ‘Thank you, because nobody listens to politicians, they listen to celebrities, so thank you, please keep helping us.’ ”

“Hearing that, and seeing Obama deliver that speech – like, tears just shot right out of his face when he started crying about the first graders being shot – I was just like, I am a lifer, I am in this. I really hope I don’t have to die for it, but I would.”