Both have made the cut for Barbara Walters’s list of the Most Fascinating People of 2013.
In true Walters fashion, this year’s roster is an eclectic mélange of celebs, newsmakers and pop-culture faves.
Rounding out the list are Pope Francis, NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and long-distance swimmer Diana Nyad. Walters’s No. 1 pick, however, will be revealed when her annual special airs on ABC on Dec. 18
This year’s list marks a bittersweet swan song for Walters: It will be her final Most Fascinating People special before she retires in 2014.