“We feel the difference now. See, now, we are feeling what not having hope feels like,” Obama told Oprah Winfrey in an interview clip broadcast Friday on CBS This Morning.
“Hope is necessary. It’s a necessary concept and Barack didn’t just talk about hope because he thought it was just a nice slogan to get votes,” Obama added, referencing husband President Barack Obama‘s campaign platform of hope and progress. “He and I and so many believe that — what else do you have if you don’t have hope? What do you give your kids if you can’t give them hope?”
The first lady also said that her husband has provided a source of calm and comfort for Americans during his eight years in office.
“I feel Barack has been that for the nation in ways that people will come to appreciate. Having a grown-up in the White House who can say to you in times of crisis and turmoil, ‘Hey, it’s going to be okay. Let’s remember the good things that we have,’ ” she said.
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The first lady was one of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton‘s most powerful surrogates on the campaign trail, where she delivered passionate speeches about the dangers of electing Trump, being careful all the while to avoid mentioning him by name.
She broke her silence on Trump’s election-night victory to PEOPLE earlier this month, saying, ““I went to bed. I don’t like to watch the political discourse; I never have.”
Obama also discussed race in her interview with Winfrey, saying, “Color, wealth, these things that don’t matter still play too much of a role in how we see one another. And it’s sad because the thing that least defines us as people is the color of our skin.”
Obama’s full interview airs Monday on CBS at 8 p.m. ET and again on OWN on Dec. 21 at 9 p.m. ET