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Lady Gaga Says 'Fame Is So Alienating' as She Talks About the Pain Behind Joanne

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It’s no secret that Lady Gaga gives 100 percent of herself in her music. But the pop star says her dedication to her craft has surely taken a toll on her personal life.

“Fame is so alienating and it’s toxic for the creative process, for me, because I need human connection in order to write music,” the 30-year-old “Perfect Illusion” singer said Monday on SiriusXM’s Feedback talk show. “If I go to a bar or to the grocery store or wherever and I try to talk to somebody and the whole time they’re screaming or trying to take a picture, I can’t get to know them.”

She added: “I can’t ask them a question. I can’t learn about their life or share something about mine. I don’t get asked very often, you know, really super deep things about myself and that is hard and it’s scary. Really scary because you just feel like, ‘Will I ever, ever again talk to somebody and have them see me as a person?'”

Gaga said her latest album Joanne is her attempt to “put myself back in that place where I am just a human being.”

The project is perhaps her most emotional album to date.

“I wouldn’t say that it’s necessarily thematically painful the whole way through — because it’s quite a fun album as well,” she said. “The pain is in my voice.”

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The singer then became emotional as she recalled playing the album for her mother.

“When she first heard a couple of songs on the album she just looked at me and she just was crying. I said, ‘What’s wrong?’ and she just said, ‘Nothing, it’s so good and I don’t want you to take this the wrong way because it’s not a bad thing, but, like, you’re voice just sounds different,’ ” Gaga explained.

“I said, ‘What’s different?’ and she just said ‘I can just hear that you’re in some emotional pain.'”

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Joanne drops Oct. 21.