Kanye West believes people will no longer be talking in the future.
In his interview with Surface magazine, published one day before his hospitalization for exhaustion, the rapper was asked to describe his version of utopia and his answer was more candid and thought-provoking than ever.
“I don’t think people are going to talk in the future,” West, 39, responded. “They’re going to communicate through eye contact, body language, emojis, signs. Imagine that. If everyone was forced to learn sign language.”
Good thing his wife Kim Kardashian West has the popular Kimoji expressions. “Yeah, sign language, eye contact. Or thank God for emojis. So often one emoji goes a long way and lets me get on with my whole day,” he continued, adding, “It’s funny because I’ve made a living off of words, but words get in the way of what you really want to say.”
West also likened wordless communication to talks with toddlers, in the age range his three-year-old daughter North. “I think business has to be stupider. I want to do really straightforward, stupid business—just talk to me like a 4-year-old,” he shared. “And I refuse to negotiate. I do not negotiate. I can collaborate. But I’m an artist, so as soon as you negotiate, you’re being compromised.”
As for the near future, Kanye explained how millennials and younger generations will rise up to power. “There is currently a lack of people in power who are motivated by the idea of helping people,” he explained. “But thanks to the internet, there are people who would never have made it through a corporate system who are able to jump into positions of power in their twenties. They can collectively work on ideas for the new world.”
Adding, “Those are the people who can make the change. And will. It’s not can; it’s will. You have to will things into fruition. I think that in our time, our civilization, we can get to a place where. When you say way overly optimistic things, they just get attacked.”
Speaking of getting “attacked,” ‘Ye referenced the backlash he received after announcing his run for president in 2020. “After I said I was going to run for president [at the 2015 MTV VMAs], I saw a video of someone making fun of me about it. I was thinking, Wow, if this person had been doing this to me from the age of 3, I would have never been me,” he said. “People say geniuses are kids with good parents. How do you nurture the things that people will call weird into something that could be considered exceptional?”
Ultimately, West alluded that speaking up gets mixed reactions no matter what. “Maybe this will be an eloquent interview. It’s a 50/50 chance every time I open my mouth. At the end of the day, words get in the way,” he explained. “Regardless, whether you understand this or that, you know it’s Rain Man sitting here. You just f—ing know it’s Rain Man. No matter what Rain Man’s doing, you know, if you take him to that fucking table, he’s going to pick the right cards.”
As a true believer of art, fashion and design, West’s utopia consists of a type of culture that will breed influencers. “As sure as people have eyes, artists shall rise. Masters of visuals. Masters of communication. The art of conversation,” he said as “color” will also have a new meaning.
“Ten years from now to be black is going to be a completely different thing, because of what we’re doing now,” West shared, specifying, “Through culture. And business. And interracial dating.”