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Alexandra Zaslow
March 03, 2015 10:00 AM

Madonna, now older and wiser, has a thing or two to say about young musicians, especially Kanye West.

The Queen of Pop worked with Kanye to co-produce three songs off her new album Rebel Heart, and in a recent interview with Rolling Stone, she referred to him as a “beautiful mess.”

“He’s a brilliant madman. He can’t help himself,” Madonna, 56, tells Rolling Stone. “Like, he doesn’t have the same filters other people have. He has to blurt things out – he’s always saying inappropriate stuff.”

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She thinks he has “brilliant ideas in the studio,” but she has trouble getting him to pay attention long enough, which would drive her “bonkers.”

“But I feel like the music business needs him, because everyone’s become so politically correct, so safe,” Madonna says. “I don’t always agree with the things he says or does – I don’t always like his music, even. But he’s a beautiful mess. I love him.”

She also says that she thinks he takes award shows too seriously.

“I never got too engaged with who wins awards or not, because I don’t honestly think it’s that important. So that part of him I can’t relate to,” Madonna says. “Like, what’s the point of fighting for somebody to … like, ‘This person should have got it?’ Don’t come to an award show looking for justice!”

Madonna also told the music magazine that she feels a kinship to Taylor Swift, who in some ways reminds her of her younger self.

“She has an opinion, and she’s going against the norm. So in that respect, she is similar to me, yeah,” Madonna says.

The boundary-pushing icon then showed off her maternal side, seemingly wanting to protect the singer against an image that might not necessarily fit the “Shake It Off” superstar.

“People just want to give her a hard time all the time because they think she’s a goody two-shoes, so of course I want to embrace her,” Madonna says.

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